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Re: Pokemon Generation V Thread/Discussion

Post by Saturn »

I'm only really disappointed by the grass one. I really, REALLY wanted it to be a bird :( did we really need ANOTHER grass dinosaur? Seriously? (to be fair, though, the design itself is alright)

I like the girl trainer, though it looks like she killed a Purugly to get those shorts D: I'm mostly intrigued by the fact that the player characters are noticeably older looking than in previous gens, though. I don't know if it really means anything but it's neat.
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Re: Pokemon Generation V Thread/Discussion

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So I got bored one day and created tables using pokemon type combos. The basic idea was to show what combos existed (rather than count the amount of each combo):
Personally I keep hoping they'll add a Light type to even out the Physical and Special.

Oh, and for those interested, types break down as follows:
25 Pure Psychic:
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1 063 Abra
2 064 Kadabra
3 065 Alakazam
4 096 Drowzee
5 097 Hypno
6 122 Mr. Mime
7 150 Mewtwo
8 151 Mew
9 196 Espeon
10 201 Unown
11 202 Wobbuffet
12 280 Ralts
13 281 Kirlia
14 282 Gardevoir
15 325 Spoink
16 326 Grumpig
17 358 Chimecho
18 360 Wynaut
19 386 Deoxys
20 433 Chingling
21 439 Mime Jr.
22 480 Uxie
23 481 Mesprit
24 482 Azelf
25 488 Cresselia
Type 1 Psychic:
3 Psychic/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 177 Natu Psychic Flying
2 178 Xatu Psychic Flying
3 249 Lugia Psychic Flying
1 Psychic/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 251 Celebi Psychic Grass
1 Psychic/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 475 Gallade Psychic Fighting
Type 2 Psychic:
6 Steel/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 374 Beldum Steel Psychic
2 375 Metang Steel Psychic
3 376 Metagross Steel Psychic
4 385 Jirachi Steel Psychic
5 436 Bronzor Steel Psychic
6 437 Bronzong Steel Psychic
4 Water/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 079 Slowpoke Water Psychic
2 080 Slowbro Water Psychic
3 121 Starmie Water Psychic
4 199 Slowking Water Psychic
2 Grass/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 102 Exeggcute Grass Psychic
2 103 Exeggutor Grass Psychic
2 Ice/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 124 Jynx Ice Psychic
2 238 Smoochum Ice Psychic
2 Dragon/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 380 Latias Dragon Psychic
2 381 Latios Dragon Psychic
Spoiler: open/close
1 307 Meditite Fighting Psychic
2 308 Medicham Fighting Psychic
2 Ground Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 343 Baltoy Ground Psychic
2 344 Claydol Ground Psychic
2 Rock/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 337 Lunatone Rock Psychic
2 338 Solrock Rock Psychic
1 Normal/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 203 Girafarig Normal Psychic
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12 Pure Fighting:
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1 056 Mankey
2 057 Primeape
3 066 Machop
4 067 Machoke
5 068 Machamp
6 106 Hitmonlee
7 107 Hitmonchan
8 236 Tyrogue
9 237 Hitmontop
10 296 Makuhita
11 297 Hariyama
12 447 Riolu
Type 1 Fighting:
2 Fighting/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 307 Meditite Fighting Psychic
2 308 Medicham Fighting Psychic
1 Fighting/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 448 Lucario Fighting Steel
Type 2 Fighting:
4 Fire/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 256 Combusken Fire Fighting
2 257 Blaziken Fire Fighting
3 391 Monferno Fire Fighting
4 392 Infernape Fire Fighting
2 Poison/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 453 Croagunk Poison Fighting
2 454 Toxicroak Poison Fighting
1 Water/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 062 Poliwrath Water Fighting
1 Bug/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 214 Heracross Bug Fighting
1 Grass/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 286 Breloom Grass Fighting
1 Psychic/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 475 Gallade Psychic Fighting
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20 Pure Fire:
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1 004 Charmander
2 005 Charmeleon
3 037 Vulpix
4 038 Ninetales
5 058 Growlithe
6 059 Arcanine
7 077 Ponyta
8 078 Rapidash
9 126 Magmar
10 136 Flareon
11 155 Cyndaquil
12 156 Quilava
13 157 Typhlosion
14 218 Slugma
15 240 Magby
16 244 Entei
17 255 Torchic
18 324 Torkoal
19 390 Chimchar
20 467 Magmortar
Type 1 Fire:
4 Fire/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 256 Combusken Fire Fighting
2 257 Blaziken Fire Fighting
3 391 Monferno Fire Fighting
4 392 Infernape Fire Fighting
3 Fire/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 006 Charizard Fire Flying
2 146 Moltres Fire Flying
3 250 Ho-Oh Fire Flying
2 Fire/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
1 322 Numel Fire Ground
2 323 Camerupt Fire Ground
1 Fire/Rock:
Spoiler: open/close
1 219 Magcargo Fire Rock
1 Fire/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 485 Heatran Fire Steel
Type 2 Fire:
2 Dark/Fire:
Spoiler: open/close
1 228 Houndour Dark Fire
2 229 Houndoom Dark Fire
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21 Pure Electric:
Spoiler: open/close
1 025 Pikachu
2 026 Raichu
3 100 Voltorb
4 101 Electrode
5 125 Electabuzz
6 135 Jolteon
7 172 Pichu
8 179 Mareep
9 180 Flaaffy
10 181 Ampharos
11 239 Elekid
12 243 Raikou
13 309 Electrike
14 310 Manectric
15 311 Plusle
16 312 Minun
17 403 Shinx
18 404 Luxio
19 405 Luxray
20 417 Pachirisu
21 466 Electivire
Type 1 Electric:
3 Electric/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 081 Magnemite Electric Steel
2 082 Magneton Electric Steel
3 462 Magnezone Electric Steel
1 Electric/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 145 Zapdos Electric Flying
1 Electric/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 479 Rotom Electric Ghost
Type 2 Electric:
2 Water/Electric
Spoiler: open/close
1 170 Chinchou Water Electric
2 171 Lanturn Water Electric
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12 Pure Bug:
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1 010 Caterpie
2 011 Metapod
3 127 Pinsir
4 204 Pineco
5 265 Wurmple
6 266 Silcoon
7 268 Cascoon
8 313 Volbeat
9 314 Illumise
10 401 Kricketot
11 402 Kricketune
12 412 Burmy
Type 1 Bug:
12 Bug/Flying:
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1 012 Butterfree Bug Flying
2 123 Scyther Bug Flying
3 165 Ledyba Bug Flying
4 166 Ledian Bug Flying
5 193 Yanma Bug Flying
6 267 Beautifly Bug Flying
7 284 Masquerain Bug Flying
8 291 Ninjask Bug Flying
9 414 Mothim Bug Flying
10 415 Combee Bug Flying
11 416 Vespiquen Bug Flying
12 469 Yanmega Bug Flying
8 Bug/Poison:
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1 013 Weedle Bug Poison
2 014 Kakuna Bug Poison
3 015 Beedrill Bug Poison
4 048 Venonat Bug Poison
5 049 Venomoth Bug Poison
6 167 Spinarak Bug Poison
7 168 Ariados Bug Poison
8 269 Dustox Bug Poison
3 Bug/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 046 Paras Bug Grass
2 047 Parasect Bug Grass
3 413 Wormadam Bug Grass*
3 Bug/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 205 Forretress Bug Steel
2 212 Scizor Bug Steel
3 413 Wormadam Bug Steel*
2 Bug/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
1 290 Nincada Bug Ground
2 413 Wormadam Bug Ground*
1 Bug/Rock:
Spoiler: open/close
1 213 Shuckle Bug Rock
1 Bug/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 214 Heracross Bug Fighting
1 Bug/Water:
Spoiler: open/close
1 283 Surskit Bug Water
1 Bug/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 292 Shedinja Bug Ghost
1 Bug/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 451 Skorupi Poison Bug
*Wormadam's second element depends on the 'cloak'.

Type 2 Bug:
2 Rock/Bug:
Spoiler: open/close
1 347 Anorith Rock Bug
2 348 Armaldo Rock Bug
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21 Pure Grass:
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1 114 Tangela
2 152 Chikorita
3 153 Bayleef
4 154 Meganium
5 182 Bellossom
6 191 Sunkern
7 192 Sunflora
8 252 Treecko
9 253 Grovyle
10 254 Sceptile
11 273 Seedot
12 285 Shroomish
13 331 Cacnea
14 387 Turtwig
15 388 Grotle
16 420 Cherubi
17 421 Cherrim
18 455 Carnivine
19 465 Tangrowth
20 470 Leafeon
21 492 Shaymin*
Type 1 Grass:
12 Grass/Poison:
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1 001 Bulbasaur Grass Poison
2 002 Ivysaur Grass Poison
3 003 Venusaur Grass Poison
4 043 Oddish Grass Poison
5 044 Gloom Grass Poison
6 045 Vileplume Grass Poison
7 069 Bellsprout Grass Poison
8 070 Weepinbell Grass Poison
9 071 Victreebel Grass Poison
10 315 Roselia Grass Poison
11 406 Budew Grass Poison
12 407 Roserade Grass Poison
5 Grass/Flying:
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1 187 Hoppip Grass Flying
2 188 Skiploom Grass Flying
3 189 Jumpluff Grass Flying
4 357 Tropius Grass Flying
5 492S Shaymin* Grass Flying
3 Grass/Dark:
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1 274 Nuzleaf Grass Dark
2 275 Shiftry Grass Dark
3 332 Cacturne Grass Dark
2 Grass/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 102 Exeggcute Grass Psychic
2 103 Exeggutor Grass Psychic
2 Grass/Ice:
Spoiler: open/close
1 459 Snover Grass Ice
2 460 Abomasnow Grass Ice
1 Grass/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
286 286 Breloom Grass Fighting
1 Grass/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
1 389 Torterra Grass Ground
*Shaymin gains the Flying type when in Sky Forme and reverts to Grass-only in Land Forme.

Type 2 Grass:
3 Bug/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 046 Paras Bug Grass
2 047 Parasect Bug Grass
3 413 Wormadam* Bug Grass
3 Water/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 270 Lotad Water Grass
2 271 Lombre Water Grass
3 272 Ludicolo Water Grass
2 Rock/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 345 Lileep Rock Grass
2 346 Cradily Rock Grass
1 Psychic/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 251 Celebi Psychic Grass
*Wormadam's second element depends on the 'cloak'.
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4 Pure Ice:
Spoiler: open/close
1 361 Snorunt
2 362 Glalie
3 378 Regice
4 471 Glaceon
Type 1 Ice:
3 Ice/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
1 220 Swinub Ice Ground
2 221 Piloswine Ice Ground
3 473 Mamoswine Ice Ground
3 Ice/Water:
Spoiler: open/close
1 363 Spheal Ice Water
2 364 Sealeo Ice Water
3 365 Walrein Ice Water
2 Ice/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 124 Jynx Ice Psychic
2 238 Smoochum Ice Psychic
2 Ice/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 144 Articuno Ice Flying
2 225 Delibird Ice Flying
1 Ice/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 478 Froslass Ice Ghost
Type 2 Ice:
3 Water/Ice:
Spoiler: open/close
1 087 Dewgong Water Ice
2 091 Cloyster Water Ice
3 131 Lapras Water Ice
2 Grass/Ice:
Spoiler: open/close
1 459 Snover Grass Ice
2 460 Abomasnow Grass Ice
2 Dark/Ice:
Spoiler: open/close
1 215 Sneasel Dark Ice
2 461 Weavile Dark Ice
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47 Pure Water:
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1 007 Squirtle
2 008 Wartortle
3 009 Blastoise
4 054 Psyduck
5 055 Golduck
6 060 Poliwag
7 061 Poliwhirl
8 086 Seel
9 090 Shellder
10 098 Krabby
11 099 Kingler
12 116 Horsea
13 117 Seadra
14 118 Goldeen
15 119 Seaking
16 120 Staryu
17 129 Magikarp
18 134 Vaporeon
19 158 Totodile
20 159 Croconaw
21 160 Feraligatr
22 183 Marill
23 184 Azumarill
24 186 Politoed
25 223 Remoraid
26 224 Octillery
27 245 Suicune
28 258 Mudkip
29 320 Wailmer
30 321 Wailord
31 341 Corphish
32 349 Feebas
33 350 Milotic
34 366 Clamperl
35 367 Huntail
36 368 Gorebyss
37 370 Luvdisc
38 382 Kyogre
39 393 Piplup
40 394 Prinplup
41 418 Buizel
42 419 Floatzel
43 422 Shellos
44 456 Finneon
45 457 Lumineon
46 489 Phione
47 490 Manaphy
Type 1 Water:
7 Water/Ground:
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1 194 Wooper Water Ground
2 195 Quagsire Water Ground
3 259 Marshtomp Water Ground
4 260 Swampert Water Ground
5 339 Barboach Water Ground
6 340 Whiscash Water Ground
7 423 Gastrodon Water Ground

5 Water/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 130 Gyarados Water Flying
2 226 Mantine Water Flying
3 278 Wingull Water Flying
4 279 Pelipper Water Flying
5 458 Mantyke Water Flying
4 Water/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 079 Slowpoke Water Psychic
2 080 Slowbro Water Psychic
3 121 Starmie Water Psychic
4 199 Slowking Water Psychic
3 Water/Grass:
Spoiler: open/close
1 270 Lotad Water Grass
2 271 Lombre Water Grass
3 272 Ludicolo Water Grass
3 Water/Ice:
Spoiler: open/close
1 087 Dewgong Water Ice
2 091 Cloyster Water Ice
3 131 Lapras Water Ice
3 Water/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 072 Tentacool Water Poison
2 073 Tentacruel Water Poison
3 211 Qwilfish Water Poison
3 Water/Dark:
Spoiler: open/close
1 318 Carvanha Water Dark
2 319 Sharpedo Water Dark
3 342 Crawdaunt Water Dark
2 Water/Electric:
Spoiler: open/close
1 170 Chinchou Water Electric
2 171 Lanturn Water Electric
2 Water/Rock:
Spoiler: open/close
1 222 Corsola Water Rock
2 369 Relicanth Water Rock
2 Water/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
230 230 Kingdra Water Dragon
484 484 Palkia Water Dragon
1 Water/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 062 Poliwrath Water Fighting
1 Water/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
395 395 Empoleon Water Steel
Type 2 Water:
4 Rock/Water:
Spoiler: open/close
1 138 Omanyte Rock Water
2 139 Omastar Rock Water
3 140 Kabuto Rock Water
4 141 Kabutops Rock Water
3 Ice/Water:
Spoiler: open/close
1 363 Spheal Ice Water
2 364 Sealeo Ice Water
3 365 Walrein Ice Water
1 Bug/Water:
Spoiler: open/close
1 283 Surskit Bug Water
1 Normal/Water:
Spoiler: open/close
1 400 Bibarel Normal Water
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4 Pure Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 147 Dratini
2 148 Dragonair
3 371 Bagon
4 372 Shelgon
Type 1 Dragon:
4 Dragon/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 149 Dragonite Dragon Flying
2 334 Altaria Dragon Flying
3 373 Salamence Dragon Flying
4 384 Rayquaza Dragon Flying
3 Dragon/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
1 443 Gible Dragon Ground
2 444 Gabite Dragon Ground
3 445 Garchomp Dragon Ground
2 Dragon/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 380 Latias Dragon Psychic
2 381 Latios Dragon Psychic
Type 2 Dragon:
2 Water/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 230 Kingdra Water Dragon
2 484 Palkia Water Dragon
2 Ground/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 329 Vibrava Ground Dragon
2 330 Flygon Ground Dragon
1 Steel/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 483 Dialga Steel Dragon
1 Ghost/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 487 Giratina Ghost Dragon
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0 Pure Flying Type
Type 1 Flying:
--None--

Type 2 Flying:
19 Normal/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 016 Pidgey Normal Flying
2 017 Pidgeotto Normal Flying
3 018 Pidgeot Normal Flying
4 021 Spearow Normal Flying
5 022 Fearow Normal Flying
6 083 Farfetch'd Normal Flying
7 084 Doduo Normal Flying
8 085 Dodrio Normal Flying
9 163 Hoothoot Normal Flying
10 164 Noctowl Normal Flying
11 176 Togetic Normal Flying
12 276 Taillow Normal Flying
13 277 Swellow Normal Flying
14 333 Swablu Normal Flying
15 396 Starly Normal Flying
16 397 Staravia Normal Flying
17 398 Staraptor Normal Flying
18 441 Chatot Normal Flying
19 468 Togekiss Normal Flying
12 Bug/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 012 Butterfree Bug Flying
2 123 Scyther Bug Flying
3 165 Ledyba Bug Flying
4 166 Ledian Bug Flying
5 193 Yanma Bug Flying
6 267 Beautifly Bug Flying
7 284 Masquerain Bug Flying
8 291 Ninjask Bug Flying
9 414 Mothim Bug Flying
10 415 Combee Bug Flying
11 416 Vespiquen Bug Flying
12 469 Yanmega Bug Flying
5 Water/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 130 Gyarados Water Flying
2 226 Mantine Water Flying
3 278 Wingull Water Flying
4 279 Pelipper Water Flying
5 458 Mantyke Water Flying
5 Grass/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 187 Hoppip Grass Flying
2 188 Skiploom Grass Flying
3 189 Jumpluff Grass Flying
4 357 Tropius Grass Flying
5 492S Shaymin* Grass Flying
4 Dragon/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 149 Dragonite Dragon Flying
2 334 Altaria Dragon Flying
3 373 Salamence Dragon Flying
4 384 Rayquaza Dragon Flying
3 Psychic/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 177 Natu Psychic Flying
2 178 Xatu Psychic Flying
3 249 Lugia Psychic Flying
3 Fire/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 006 Charizard Fire Flying
2 146 Moltres Fire Flying
3 250 Ho-Oh Fire Flying
3 Poison/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 041 Zubat Poison Flying
2 042 Golbat Poison Flying
3 169 Crobat Poison Flying
2 Ice/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 144 Articuno Ice Flying
2 225 Delibird Ice Flying
2 Ghost/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 425 Drifloon Ghost Flying
2 426 Drifblim Ghost Flying
2 Ground/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 207 Gligar Ground Flying
2 472 Gliscor Ground Flying
2 Dark/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 198 Murkrow Dark Flying
2 430 Honchkrow Dark Flying
1 Rock/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 142 Aerodactyl Rock Flying
1 Electric/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 145 Zapdos Electric Flying
1 Steel/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 227 Skarmory Steel Flying
*Shaymin gains the Flying type when in Sky Forme and reverts to Grass-only in Land Forme.
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13 Pure Poison:
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1 023 Ekans
2 024 Arbok
3 029 Nidoran♀
4 030 Nidorina
5 032 Nidoran♂
6 033 Nidorino
7 088 Grimer
8 089 Muk
9 109 Koffing
10 110 Weezing
11 316 Gulpin
12 317 Swalot
13 336 Seviper
Type 1 Poison:
3 Poison/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 041 Zubat Poison Flying
2 042 Golbat Poison Flying
3 169 Crobat Poison Flying
3 Poison/Dark:
Spoiler: open/close
1 434 Stunky Poison Dark
2 435 Skuntank Poison Dark
3 452 Drapion Poison Dark
2 Poison/Fighting:
Spoiler: open/close
1 453 Croagunk Poison Fighting
2 454 Toxicroak Poison Fighting
2 Poison/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
031 031 Nidoqueen Poison Ground
034 034 Nidoking Poison Ground
1 Poison/Bug:
Spoiler: open/close
1 451 Skorupi Poison Bug
Type 2 Poison:
12 Grass/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 001 Bulbasaur Grass Poison
2 002 Ivysaur Grass Poison
3 003 Venusaur Grass Poison
4 043 Oddish Grass Poison
5 044 Gloom Grass Poison
6 045 Vileplume Grass Poison
7 069 Bellsprout Grass Poison
8 070 Weepinbell Grass Poison
9 071 Victreebel Grass Poison
10 315 Roselia Grass Poison
11 406 Budew Grass Poison
12 407 Roserade Grass Poison
8 Bug/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 013 Weedle Bug Poison
2 014 Kakuna Bug Poison
3 015 Beedrill Bug Poison
4 048 Venonat Bug Poison
5 049 Venomoth Bug Poison
6 167 Spinarak Bug Poison
7 168 Ariados Bug Poison
8 269 Dustox Bug Poison
3 Water/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 072 Tentacool Water Poison
2 073 Tentacruel Water Poison
3 211 Qwilfish Water Poison
3 Ghost/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 092 Gastly Ghost Poison
2 093 Haunter Ghost Poison
3 094 Gengar Ghost Poison
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7 Pure Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 200 Misdreavus
2 353 Shuppet
3 354 Banette
4 355 Duskull
5 356 Dusclops
6 429 Mismagius
7 477 Dusknoir
Type 1 Ghost:
3 Ghost/Poison:
Spoiler: open/close
1 092 Gastly Ghost Poison
2 093 Haunter Ghost Poison
3 094 Gengar Ghost Poison
2 Ghost/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 425 Drifloon Ghost Flying
2 426 Drifblim Ghost Flying
1 Ghost/Dark:
Spoiler: open/close
1 442 Spiritomb Ghost Dark
1 Ghost/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 487 Giratina Ghost Dragon
Type 2 Ghost:
1 Bug/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 292 Shedinja Bug Ghost
1 Dark/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 302 Sableye Dark Ghost
1 Ice/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 478 Froslass Ice Ghost
1 Electric/Ghost:
Spoiler: open/close
1 479 Rotom Electric Ghost
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2 Pure Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 303 Mawile
2 379 Registeel
Type 1 Steel:
6 Steel/Psychic:
Spoiler: open/close
1 374 Beldum Steel Psychic
2 375 Metang Steel Psychic
3 376 Metagross Steel Psychic
4 385 Jirachi Steel Psychic
5 436 Bronzor Steel Psychic
6 437 Bronzong Steel Psychic
3 Steel/Rock:
Spoiler: open/close
1 304 Aron Steel Rock
2 305 Lairon Steel Rock
3 306 Aggron Steel Rock
1 Steel/Ground:
Spoiler: open/close
1 208 Steelix Steel Ground
1 Steel/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 227 Skarmory Steel Flying
1 Steel/Dragon:
Spoiler: open/close
1 483 Dialga Steel Dragon
Type 2 Steel:
3 Electric/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 081 Magnemite Electric Steel
2 082 Magneton Electric Steel
3 462 Magnezone Electric Steel
3 Bug/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 205 Forretress Bug Steel
2 212 Scizor Bug Steel
3 413 Wormadam* Bug Steel
3 Rock/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 410 Shieldon Rock Steel
2 411 Bastiodon Rock Steel
3 476 Probopass Rock Steel
1 Water/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 395 Empoleon Water Steel
1 Fighting/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 448 Lucario Fighting Steel
1 Fire/Steel:
Spoiler: open/close
1 485 Heatran Fire Steel
*Wormadam's second element depends on the 'cloak'.
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59 Pure Normal:
Spoiler: open/close
1 019 Rattata
2 020 Raticate
3 035 Clefairy
4 036 Clefable
5 039 Jigglypuff
6 040 Wigglytuff
7 052 Meowth
8 053 Persian
9 108 Lickitung
10 113 Chansey
11 115 Kangaskhan
12 128 Tauros
13 132 Ditto
14 133 Eevee
15 137 Porygon
16 143 Snorlax
17 161 Sentret
18 162 Furret
19 173 Cleffa
20 174 Igglybuff
21 175 Togepi
22 190 Aipom
23 206 Dunsparce
24 209 Snubbull
25 210 Granbull
26 216 Teddiursa
27 217 Ursaring
28 233 Porygon2
29 234 Stantler
30 235 Smeargle
31 241 Miltank
32 242 Blissey
33 263 Zigzagoon
34 264 Linoone
35 287 Slakoth
36 288 Vigoroth
37 289 Slaking
38 293 Whismur
39 294 Loudred
40 295 Exploud
41 298 Azurill
42 300 Skitty
43 301 Delcatty
44 327 Spinda
45 335 Zangoose
46 351 Castform
47 352 Kecleon
48 399 Bidoof
49 424 Ambipom
50 427 Buneary
51 428 Lopunny
52 431 Glameow
53 432 Purugly
54 440 Happiny
55 446 Munchlax
56 463 Lickilicky
57 474 Porygon-Z
58 486 Regigigas
59 493 Arceus
Type 1 Normal:
19 Normal/Flying:
Spoiler: open/close
1 016 Pidgey Normal Flying
2 017 Pidgeotto Normal Flying
3 018 Pidgeot Normal Flying
4 021 Spearow Normal Flying
5 022 Fearow Normal Flying
6 083 Farfetch'd Normal Flying
7 084 Doduo Normal Flying
8 085 Dodrio Normal Flying
9 163 Hoothoot Normal Flying
10 164 Noctowl Normal Flying
11 176 Togetic Normal Flying
12 276 Taillow Normal Flying
13 277 Swellow Normal Flying
14 333 Swablu Normal Flying
15 396 Starly Normal Flying
16 397 Staravia Normal Flying
17 398 Staraptor Normal Flying
18 441 Chatot Normal Flying
19 468 Togekiss Normal Flying
1 Normal/Psychic:
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1 203 Girafarig Normal Psychic
1 Normal/Water:
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1 400 Bibarel Normal Water
Type 2 Normal:
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12 Pure Ground:
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1 027 Sandshrew
2 028 Sandslash
3 050 Diglett
4 051 Dugtrio
5 104 Cubone
6 105 Marowak
7 231 Phanpy
8 232 Donphan
9 328 Trapinch
10 383 Groudon
11 449 Hippopotas
12 450 Hippowdon
Type 1 Ground:
3 Ground/Rock:
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1 111 Rhyhorn Ground Rock
2 112 Rhydon Ground Rock
3 464 Rhyperior Ground Rock
2 Ground/Flying:
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1 207 Gligar Ground Flying
2 472 Gliscor Ground Flying
2 Ground/Dragon:
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1 329 Vibrava Ground Dragon
2 330 Flygon Ground Dragon
2 Ground/Psychic:
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1 343 Baltoy Ground Psychic
2 344 Claydol Ground Psychic
Type 2 Ground:
7 Water/Ground:
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1 194 Wooper Water Ground
2 195 Quagsire Water Ground
3 259 Marshtomp Water Ground
4 260 Swampert Water Ground
5 339 Barboach Water Ground
6 340 Whiscash Water Ground
7 423 Gastrodon Water Ground
6 Rock/Ground:
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1 074 Geodude Rock Ground
2 075 Graveler Rock Ground
3 076 Golem Rock Ground
4 095 Onix Rock Ground
5 246 Larvitar Rock Ground
6 247 Pupitar Rock Ground
3 Ice/Ground:
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1 220 Swinub Ice Ground
2 221 Piloswine Ice Ground
3 473 Mamoswine Ice Ground
3 Dragon/Ground:
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1 443 Gible Dragon Ground
2 444 Gabite Dragon Ground
3 445 Garchomp Dragon Ground
2 Poison/Ground:
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1 031 Nidoqueen Poison Ground
2 034 Nidoking Poison Ground
2 Bug/Ground:
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1 290 Nincada Bug Ground
2 413 Wormadam* Bug Ground
2 Fire/Ground:
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1 322 Numel Fire Ground
2 323 Camerupt Fire Ground
1 Steel/Ground:
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1 208 Steelix Steel Ground
1 Grass/Ground:
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1 389 Torterra Grass Ground
*Wormadam's second element depends on the 'cloak'.
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6 Pure Rock:
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1 185 Sudowoodo
2 299 Nosepass
3 377 Regirock
4 408 Cranidos
5 409 Rampardos
6 438 Bonsly
Type 1 Rock:
6 Rock/Ground:
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1 074 Geodude Rock Ground
2 075 Graveler Rock Ground
3 076 Golem Rock Ground
4 095 Onix Rock Ground
5 246 Larvitar Rock Ground
6 247 Pupitar Rock Ground
4 Rock/Water:
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1 138 Omanyte Rock Water
2 139 Omastar Rock Water
3 140 Kabuto Rock Water
4 141 Kabutops Rock Water
3 Rock/Steel:
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1 410 Shieldon Rock Steel
2 411 Bastiodon Rock Steel
3 476 Probopass Rock Steel
2 Rock/Psychic:
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1 337 Lunatone Rock Psychic
2 338 Solrock Rock Psychic
2 Rock/Grass:
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1 345 Lileep Rock Grass
2 346 Cradily Rock Grass
2 Rock/Bug:
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1 347 Anorith Rock Bug
2 348 Armaldo Rock Bug
1 Rock/Flying:
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1 142 Aerodactyl Rock Flying
1 Rock/Dark:
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1 248 Tyranitar Rock Dark
Type 2 Rock:
3 Ground/Rock:
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1 111 Rhyhorn Ground Rock
2 112 Rhydon Ground Rock
3 464 Rhyperior Ground Rock
3 Steel/Rock:
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1 304 Aron Steel Rock
2 305 Lairon Steel Rock
3 306 Aggron Steel Rock
2 Water/Rock:
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1 222 Corsola Water Rock
2 369 Relicanth Water Rock
1 Bug/Rock:
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1 213 Shuckle Bug Rock
1 Fire/Rock:
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1 219 Magcargo Fire Rock
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5 Pure Dark*:
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1 197 Umbreon
2 261 Poochyena
3 262 Mightyena
4 359 Absol
5 491 Darkrai
Type 1 Dark:
2 Dark/Fire:
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1 228 Houndour Dark Fire
2 229 Houndoom Dark Fire
2 Dark/Ice:
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1 215 Sneasel Dark Ice
2 461 Weavile Dark Ice
2 Dark/Flying:
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1 198 Murkrow Dark Flying
2 430 Honchkrow Dark Flying
1 Dark/Ghost:
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1 302 Sableye Dark Ghost
Type 2 Dark:
3 Grass/Dark:
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1 274 Nuzleaf Grass Dark
2 275 Shiftry Grass Dark
3 332 Cacturne Grass Dark
3 Water/Dark:
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1 318 Carvanha Water Dark
2 319 Sharpedo Water Dark
3 342 Crawdaunt Water Dark
3 Poison/Dark:
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1 434 Stunky Poison Dark
2 435 Skuntank Poison Dark
3 452 Drapion Poison Dark
1 Rock/Dark:
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1 248 Tyranitar Rock Dark
1 Ghost/Dark:
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1 442 Spiritomb Ghost Dark
*Zorua and Zoroark are currently listed as pure Dark types, but they are not counted yet since details may change before release. The three new starters are, obviously, going to be Grass, Fire, and Water, but I'm not sure if they're going to be pure or not (that pig one looks like it could easily be Fire/Ground while the otter/beaver/thing could be Water/Ice or maybe Water/Psychic since it looks a bit like Mime Jr.).

Non-existant type combos:
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Psychic/Fire
Psychic/Electric
Psychic/Bug
Psychic/Ice
Psychic/Water
Psychic/Dragon
Psychic/Poison
Psychic/Ghost
Psychic/Steel
Psychic/Normal
Psychic/Ground
Psychic/Rock
Psychic/Dark

Fighting/Fire
Fighting/Electric
Fighting/Bug
Fighting/Grass
Fighting/Ice
Fighting/Water
Fighting/Dragon
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Poison
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/Normal
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Rock
Fighting/Dark

Fire/Psychic
Fire/Electric
Fire/Bug
Fire/Grass
Fire/Ice
Fire/Water
Fire/Dragon
Fire/Poison
Fire/Ghost
Fire/Normal
Fire/Dark

Electric/Psychic
Electric/Fighting
Electric/Fire
Electric/Bug
Electric/Grass
Electric/Ice
Electric/Water
Electric/Dragon
Electric/Poison
Electric/Normal
Electric/Ground
Electric/Rock
Electric/Dark

Bug/Psychic
Bug/Fire
Bug/Electric
Bug/Ice
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Normal
Bug/Dark

Grass/Fire
Grass/Electric
Grass/Bug
Grass/Water
Grass/Dragon
Grass/Ghost
Grass/Steel
Grass/Normal
Grass/Rock

Ice/Fighting
Ice/Fire
Ice/Electric
Ice/Bug
Ice/Grass
Ice/Dragon
Ice/Poison
Ice/Steel
Ice/Normal
Ice/Rock
Ice/Dark

Water/Fire
Water/Bug
Water/Ghost
Water/Normal

Dragon/Fighting
Dragon/Fire
Dragon/Electric
Dragon/Bug
Dragon/Grass
Dragon/Ice
Dragon/Water
Dragon/Poison
Dragon/Ghost
Dragon/Steel
Dragon/Normal
Dragon/Rock
Dragon/Dark

Flying
Flying/Fighting
Flying/Fire
Flying/Electric
Flying/Bug
Flying/Grass
Flying/Ice
Flying/Water
Flying/Dragon
Flying/Poison
Flying/Ghost
Flying/Steel
Flying/Normal
Flying/Ground
Flying/Rock
Flying/Dark

Poison/Psychic
Poison/Fire
Poison/Electric
Poison/Grass
Poison/Ice
Poison/Water
Poison/Dragon
Poison/Ghost
Poison/Steel
Poison/Normal
Poison/Rock

Ghost/Psychic
Ghost/Fighting
Ghost/Fire
Ghost/Electric
Ghost/Bug
Ghost/Grass
Ghost/Ice
Ghost/Water
Ghost/Steel
Ghost/Normal
Ghost/Ground
Ghost/Rock

Steel/Fighting
Steel/Fire
Steel/Electric
Steel/Bug
Steel/Grass
Steel/Ice
Steel/Water
Steel/Poison
Steel/Ghost
Steel/Normal
Steel/Dark

Normal/Fighting
Normal/Fire
Normal/Electric
Normal/Bug
Normal/Grass
Normal/Ice
Normal/Dragon
Normal/Poison
Normal/Ghost
Normal/Steel
Normal/Ground
Normal/Rock
Normal/Dark

Ground/Fighting
Ground/Fire
Ground/Electric
Ground/Bug
Ground/Grass
Ground/Ice
Ground/Water
Ground/Poison
Ground/Ghost
Ground/Steel
Ground/Normal
Ground/Dark

Rock/Fighting
Rock/Fire
Rock/Electric
Rock/Ice
Rock/Dragon
Rock/Poison
Rock/Ghost
Rock/Normal

Dark/Psychic
Dark/Fighting
Dark/Electric
Dark/Bug
Dark/Grass
Dark/Water
Dark/Dragon
Dark/Poison
Dark/Steel
Dark/Normal
Dark/Ground
Dark/Rock
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I am unamused by these starters, just like I was for GenIV. I'll probably start with the grass one, because I don't mind looking at it, haha. The water one kind of scares me- and Ty, that's supposed to be a SHELL its holding? o_o I think it looks like it has a mushroom on its stomach xD

I rather like the way the guy trainer looks, since he almooost looks like Travis... except for the hat and brown hair :P I'd like the girl more if she was wearing pants, like Joey suggested. And by pants I do not mean the hotpants she apparently has on.

I'm still really, really disappointed that there's a lack of Pokemon following you around, at least as far as I can tell from everything we've seen. That is, by far, my favorite part of HGSS and I'll be sad to see it go already.
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Well I have to say I'm not overly excited about the starters but I'm usually not. I don't get excited till I see their 3rd forms. I'm a bit bummed about fire being a pig. I'm not a fan of pigs so yeah. But I'll wait for to see the rest of the evolution stages before I rule it out. The water kind creeps me out. It looks like a clown...damn nose. Don't like clowns, they will eat me. o.o **coughs** It does make me curious to see the other stages though. The one I say I'm looking forward to is the grass. At first I was a bit bummed to see grass as another reptile like pokemon. But then I read about it being grass snake and this excites me. I can't wait to see this ones next stages. I think this will be my starter when the time comes!
As for the rest, wow! So different. I must say I'm excited about the new things they are doing. I really like that the sprites are more animated. That will make battling all the more fun for me. I also like that the main characters are older. I always thought it was funny how 12 year old's kept saving the world. XD I also mirror the wish for the girl to wear pants but I'm just happy it's not a dress/skirt. It'll be hard for me to choose which to go with this time, seeing as I like both. The only thing I don't like so far is that, like Jessi, not seeing pokemon following you. I hope that won't stay true. That would be so cruel of them! It's one of the best things in HG and SS. If they take that away after spoiling us with it, that would be just mean! XP
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WATER: Maybe it will have a super ferocious final form. I guess water/ice, too.

FIRE: It really reminds me of grumpig so if it's not fire/ground I guess fire/psychic.
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GRASS: If they went a quatzequatel route, it could be pretty cool (a grass/flying pokemon that was actually useful!). However, in it's 1st state it's a "snake" with arms, legs, and eye lids...?
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Digimon anyone? :mrgreen:
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Ugh, I've just seen this:

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I want a pretty bird pokemon! D:
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I think this gen is looking better than the fourth. I'm not sure why, but I'm actually a bit excited. The pig starter is adorable, the "grass snake" is so-so, and the otter is so derpy and dorky looking that I feel kinda sorry for it. The man-trainer is good though, for the first time since Gen 2 I actually like the way one of the trainers looks. *gasp*

Looking forward to seeing other Pokemon and evolutions of these guys before I pass any further judgment on them.
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Fury wrote:Ugh, I've just seen this:

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I want a pretty bird pokemon! D:
Want @_@ I would call it "UCfaerielenny" and it would be very fierce!!
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I think you're missing a few, Nogitsune. I didn't go through your entire list but at a glance of the Psychic section you're missing at least the Jynx line, the Slowpoke line, Lunatone, Solrock, The Baltoy line, the Meditite line, the Metagross line, the Bronzong line, Latios and Latias. There's actually some pretty interesting type pairing variation in the Psychic category.

(Edit: Oh, nevermind, I see. Those Pokemon are there, they just aren't in both type lists. I think a table of all the type combos must exist somewhere online, probably on Serebii or Veekun. That's probably the easier way to read that information.)

I like the 5th gen starters a lot. I usually pick my starter based on the look of its final evolution, not its basic form, so I don't really know which one I'll choose yet, but they're all promising. As a general guideline I rarely train grass types (weak to too many common types!) but that smarmy duck is tempting. I hope it gets snakier as it evolves, though.

If I pick the otter I might have to train a Clamperl, too, and put them right next to each other on my team roster. I like the idea of the poor Clamperl living in constant fear, when really the otter just wants to float down a river with the Clamperl on his tummy. And then eat it.
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Which evolutions for existing pokémon are people hoping to see come from this generation? Two that come to mind pretty instantly for me are Pinsir and Banette - I've always felt hard done by for the sake of Pinsir when Scizor came around, though I suppose Scyther always had the edge anyway, and similiarly for Banette with Dusknoir - Banette was definitely the one in need of an evolution more so, though I'm a bit worried at what they'd do with my favourite pokémon...
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Ierosbats wrote:I think you're missing a few, Nogitsune. I didn't go through your entire list but at a glance of the Psychic section you're missing at least the Jynx line, the Slowpoke line, Lunatone, Solrock, The Baltoy line, the Meditite line, the Metagross line, the Bronzong line, Latios and Latias. There's actually some pretty interesting type pairing variation in the Psychic category.

(Edit: Oh, nevermind, I see. Those Pokemon are there, they just aren't in both type lists. I think a table of all the type combos must exist somewhere online, probably on Serebii or Veekun. That's probably the easier way to read that information.)

I like the 5th gen starters a lot. I usually pick my starter based on the look of its final evolution, not its basic form, so I don't really know which one I'll choose yet, but they're all promising. As a general guideline I rarely train grass types (weak to too many common types!) but that smarmy duck is tempting. I hope it gets snakier as it evolves, though.

If I pick the otter I might have to train a Clamperl, too, and put them right next to each other on my team roster. I like the idea of the poor Clamperl living in constant fear, when really the otter just wants to float down a river with the Clamperl on his tummy. And then eat it.
I'm a little confused. I have to go by the order in which the elements appear: Jinx is Ice/Psychic not Psychic/Ice, for instance. I can't list it as both; that would be the same as saying that all Normal/Flying types ought to be listed as Flying/Normal too. That'd really get confusing for pokemon like Rhyhorn (Ground/Rock) and Geodude (Rock/Ground).

I'm sure there must be a better list (or a better way to make this list), but I think this will serve for most purposes here.

Personally I keep hoping they'll make one of every possible type combo. I think that Flying/--- could be very cool denizens of Distorted World. I'm always a bit disappointed that Giratina's types do not switch around when it switches formes (Dragon/Ghost in Altered Forme and Ghost/Dragon in Origin Forme). It would be cool if it did, and a nice tip to the reflection theme.
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For all intents and purposes, is there really much of a difference between Ice/Psychic and Psychic/Ice? The main reflection of interesting type combos would be in battle, where whether a type is primary or secondary isn't important.
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There's no difference between the two, Type1/Type2 vs Type2/Type1. It's just aesthetics. Look up rhyhorn and geodude: they take the same amount of damage from the same moves (i.e., both take 1/4 damage from poison, both take 4x damage from grass and water, etc.).

A bigger problem is trying to track down jynx and not finding it under psychic. That leads to confusion!
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AngharadTy wrote:There's no difference between the two, Type1/Type2 vs Type2/Type1. It's just aesthetics. Look up rhyhorn and geodude: they take the same amount of damage from the same moves (i.e., both take 1/4 damage from poison, both take 4x damage from grass and water, etc.).

A bigger problem is trying to track down jynx and not finding it under psychic. That leads to confusion!
I thought one of Jinxes attacks did that...

Anyway, the types now have both under all areas. I'll add gen 5 info to this once it's officially and fully confirmed.

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http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

(scroll down a bit) Two new Pokemon - Reshiram and Zekron, presumably the version mascot legendaries

Also release dates! September '10 for Japan, Spring '11 for North America :D
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