Atebus Revolution Masquerade

[Luxe]

Ah, thanks Seerow! I checked the purple tablecloth and came up with nothing; I must have brushed over the area too quickly.

I don't understand why finding the item itself is random despite checking the correct area; it's not like if you lift up a book in real life *to specifically look for something* there's a 50% chance you're going to miss that something lying beneath it.

I'd just like to point out the irony in this statement. Were you not specifically looking for something in the tablecloth but you missed it? The "chance to find" basically mimics this.

[AngharadTy]

What's the irony? Officer says that if you deliberately look under a tablecloth (or book or whatever), you're not going to miss it. Unless you're on Subeta. (Edit: Oh, I see, maybe. Because Officer missed the link the first time around? I think that's a pretty different concept, though. It's not like I'm going to check under a pile of books, see nothing, come back later, check under the same pile of books, and find something.)

A better thing than just the idea that I'm too dumb to find a toy the first time I look is that I really only have half a moment to look (so people don't notice I'm gone), so I can't stay to take more than a teeny teeny peek. But there's not enough in the atmosphere of the text/etc. to support it. "There doesn't seem to be anything here" is not the same thing as, oh, "In the brief moment you have to check, you don't see anything important, so you duck back out again."

I mean, really--I've stepped into a hall, opened a secret panel behind a curtain, presumably closed the door behind me, and am now alone in the study of a dead man. And I can only look under things every ten minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Me ducking away behind a tapestry every ten minutes is surely less noticeable than taking ten minutes to just look really thoroughly through the place.

So, maybe the irony is that logic doesn't apply to Subeta anyway? ;)

[Marah]

Is it possible that the area numbers are fixed again? I think my portrait is number 6 all the time.
I found one item so far.

Edit:

Georgiana: “It's so hard to believe the guest of honor is now dead. I wonder if the Ziaran Council will think twice before they invite another "honored" guest again.”

I don't think it means anything unless there is a big conspiracy going on. But Georgiana is pretty!

[Seerow]

You know, I do believe this step is more annoying then anything on Neo. Even the Anubis Toxicology Report and other other tedious tasks such as mapping the tombs have nothing on this. This is just clicking on something, find nothing, wait 10 minutes, rinse and repeat.

Has there been any reason given as to why people have such a low chance to find something? The only reason I can fathom is that Keith didn't want people to complete this step in just a few minutes, but I should be done after spending 3+ hrs of searching. Either significantly raise the chance of finding an item or lower the wait time to something like 1-2 minutes. At this rate, I won't find anything before this part of the plot is over, and it's not for lack of trying.

[Luxe]

Maybe I'm wrong, Ty. I've certainly written a lot of text for this plot, but the search-and-find flavor text wasn't part of it. Does it actually say you're just looking under these items? Like, in my mind, you're not just picking up the book and setting it down. It's more like you're taking the chance to flip through the pages to find something hidden in it. The first time you go through it, you certainly might miss something. If you go at it assuming you're just looking under it, then yeah, it does seem stupid.

[Seerow]

After 3hrs of searching, I think I would have given up and concluded that there was nothing in the office. There aren't that many blueprints on his desk that would warrant over an hour of searching. I either would have been caught if the police guy noticed I was missing that long or have given up the room as empty and snuck back to the ball.

Something this unpredictable is fine for some parts of the site, like the Polar Ice Fields and Mama Mush. Annoying to be true (it took me over a year to find her) but there wasn't a small window of time I had to get her or she'd be gone for ever. I imagine this part won't be around too much longer, each step seems to be just a few days long, so why is it this hard to find something in a rather small study.

[covet]

I must have clicked on every bloody thing in this office at least ninety times by now with nothing to show for it. Can I just smash things up and leave, please.

[Officer 1BDI]

Ah, thanks Seerow! I checked the purple tablecloth and came up with nothing; I must have brushed over the area too quickly.

I don't understand why finding the item itself is random despite checking the correct area; it's not like if you lift up a book in real life *to specifically look for something* there's a 50% chance you're going to miss that something lying beneath it.

I'd just like to point out the irony in this statement. Were you not specifically looking for something in the tablecloth but you missed it? The "chance to find" basically mimics this.

What's the irony? Officer says that if you deliberately look under a tablecloth (or book or whatever), you're not going to miss it. Unless you're on Subeta.

[snip]

I mean, really--I've stepped into a hall, opened a secret panel behind a curtain, presumably closed the door behind me, and am now alone in the study of a dead man. And I can only look under things every ten minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Me ducking away behind a tapestry every ten minutes is surely less noticeable than taking ten minutes to just look really thoroughly through the place.

This is what I was trying to get at when I made that first post; at this point in the game I feel like your "character" is deliberately looking for something to explain Vernon's murder/out the murderer. Coupled with the fact that you're already in a hidden room out of sight of the inspector and I don't understand why you can't just take your sweet time looking around for items.

I understand what you mean by pointing out when I said I brushed over the tablecloth too quickly, but that area is giving me trouble even now that I know where the link is. For whatever reason my pen doesn't register the link unless I wave the cursor back-and-forth over it a couple of times, and the click-able area itself is really small (almost ridiculously so given the size of the tablecloth). If I were physically in that room I wouldn't have limited my touching the tablecloth to that tiny corner.

Does it actually say you're just looking under these items? Like, in my mind, you're not just picking up the book and setting it down. It's more like you're taking the chance to flip through the pages to find something hidden in it.

Admittedly, it doesn't seem hint to either way, so my interpretation of the scene might not be matching up with what the author actually intended. However, at this point I'm checking the same place *multiple times* (I'm still missing at least 5 items), so I'd think that if my character were looking for something they'd be more thorough about it during the double, triple, xth check. >_>

[Tom]

I managed to get one item last night after a couple of hours, but have just got two in the space of about twenty minutes - perhaps they have increased the chances of finding items?

Also, here's a list of what things are, and where you find each item (partially because I'm lazy and am going to somehow lose the link to the forums):

Spoiler: open/close

1 gears on desk
2 red book on back floor: Journal page 3
3 drawer in small table: Wrenchett Toy.
4 mechanical dog
5 paper on floor: Property Manager notice
6 portrait on wall
7 diagrams on desk: Journal page 1
8 desk drape on left
9 rolled papers in vase: Mining permit
10 backroom bookcase
11 decoration on fireplace
12 books on desk: Journal page 2
13 clock on mantle

[Heilos]

This is becoming increasingly aggravating, I totally LOVE the idea of being able to explore and click
around but I agree in saying that having a time limit because you as the character have to not look
suspicious in a SECRET room that your obviously in BY YOURSELF just seems extremely silly.
So far I still haven't found anything and I've click on all the places at least twice through now /:

[Rah]

This is like hunting for Feebas.

[Joey]

This is like hunting for Feebas.

THIS! Ten thousand times this! Effing Feebas.

[Wingsrising]

I give up. I still haven't found a single item and I can't spend all day sitting clicking on links just to see the, "There doesn't seem to be anything here" message. Plot step FAIL.

[Rah]

xD I'm just clicking in one area about 6 times in a row and then moving on! Well, with that list now and the reduced waiting time I'm getting the items really quickly.

I HOPE I CAN GET A MILOTIC AT THE END OF THIS.

[mellaka]

I've spent maybe 5 hours now searching and have one item to show for it, found about a half hour ago. I didn't realize there was a reduced wait time though, so maybe that will help.

I should also add I've only gotten 3 invitations because I haven't been following the fourms, and did about 400 dances with only occasionally going to the dance floor.